Updated: Sep 28, 2022
Custard the Squirrel, aren’t you a duck? Will you please quack? Will you do anything you don’t want to do? “NO!” said Custard the Squirrel.
Pick by Ali Bahrampour, Monsters in the Fog:
NO! Said Custard the Squirrel
By Sergio Ruzzier
Publisher: Abrams Appleseed (September 6, 2022)
Can you tell me how No! Said Custard the Squirrel came about? Your dedication mentions a real Custard the Squirrel. Who is that? SR: "'How did this book come about?' is my most dreaded question to answer. Most of the times I have no idea how I got the idea for a book. But in this case I know perfectly what to answer. To tell the truth, I decided to do this book mainly because I knew I would have an easy time answering that question. Here we go: a couple of years ago my friend Sophie Blackall showed me a photograph of an old, beat-up plush duck she had found. As soon as I saw the picture I thought: that’s Custard the Squirrel. And then the whole story just formed in my mind in a matter of seconds. Custard is undoubtedly a squirrel, a squirrel who is not going to let any stupid diapered rat say otherwise. I based my Custard on Sophie’s plush duck, the real Custard the Squirrel."
For those who love No! Said Custard the Squirrel, can you recommend one or two other books that you think they might also enjoy? "The Carrot Seed by Ruth Krauss and Crockett Johnson is about a kid who keeps doing what he wants to do ignoring people’s non-requested advice. Uri Shulevitz’s Snow has a similar theme. Maybe it doesn’t have much to do with Custard, to think of it. But it’s a beautiful book, so I will recommend it anyway."
In his interview, Bob Shea called you "the funniest author working today." Who are some other picture book writers that make you laugh? "I wonder if Bob with 'today' meant only that very day of the interview, and I also wonder how he knew I was really working on that day. Creepy Bob. He is known for following authors. Only on social media, but still. Anyway, of course now I will have to reciprocate and answer your question with 'Bob Shea,' but luckily it happens to be true.
His books are always very funny, besides being sweet and unique and clever; and beautifully designed. Like Bob himself. A very funny book he wrote is Kid Sheriff and the Terrible Toads, which Lane Smith illustrated with his usual mastery.
I like humor that is subtle and unaffected, not brassy or punny. Florence Parry Heide is (unfortunately she died a few years ago, but I think we can still use the present when talking about her as an author) probably the funniest writer I’ve ever read. I had the good fortune of illustrating two of her books: Tales for the Perfect Child and Fables You Shouldn’t Pay Any Attention To (the latter co-written by Sylvia Worth Van Clief). Those books were first published decades ago with drawings by Victoria Chess, who is one of my favorite illustrators. I love every single thing she does.
James Marshall’s humor is brilliant. His George & Martha books are a work of genius. Rowboat Watkins’ books (Rude Cakes; Pete With No Pants, etc.) also have that kind of understated, soft humor that I like, and are complemented beautifully with his unique and always unexpected illustrations."
You are a huge Maurice Sendak fan. What kind of influence did he have on your art? What are your favorite Sendak titles, in order of preference? "I grew up with the five Little Bear books, written by Else Holmelund Minarik and illustrated by Sendak. I learned to read on those books (of course the Italian version, as I grew up in Milan), but even more importantly, I learned to read the pictures, and how these work with the words to create a unique language. Later, as a teenager, when I started to be interested in drawing with pen and ink, I kept those same books very close, for guidance. Little Bear was the only work by Sendak that I knew as a kid, but later on I found more and more of his books, especially after my move to New York, in my 20s.
All of his books are good and beautiful, but I can mention a few that are of particular importance to me (I’m not sure I am able to list them in any order, sorry!). The four volumes in The Nutshell Library; Outside Over There; Mr. Rabbit and the Lovely Present (written by Charlotte Zolotow); A Hole is to Dig (written by Ruth Krauss). And Bumble-Ardy. The more I read and look into that book, the more I understand its brilliancy.
Meeting and getting to know Maurice was wonderful and strange. He was very warm, sarcastic, curious, generous. Sometimes childish, in the best sense of the word. He had high standards in judging a book or a drawing, even and especially his own. Since I met him, I find it more difficult to send out a work if I know I could have done better. Don’t get me wrong, I can still manage to send it out, but it’s more difficult than before meeting him."
Who are some other artists who've had a huge influence on you?
"Let’s see. In no particular order, here are a few: Simone Martini, Hieronymus Bosch, Edward Gorey, Alfred Kubin, George Herriman, Elzie C. Segar, Charles Schulz, Arnold Lobel, Roland Topor."
What would be on your list of 100 best picture books of all time?
"I already mentioned a bunch of Sendak’s books, so I’ll skip them here. Also, when I like an author I tend to like most of their books, but here I will mention only one or two by each.
The Doubtful Guest by Edward Gorey
The Loathsome Couple by Edward Gorey
George & Martha series by James Marshall
The Piggy in the Puddle by Charlotte Pomerantz and James Marshall
Frog and Toad series by Arnold Lobel (I know these are not exactly picture books, but I am putting them in the list anyway)
Yellow & Pink by William Steig
The Agony in the Kindergarten by William Steig
The Beast of Monsieur Racine by Tomi Ungerer
The Three Robbers by Tomi Ungerer
Millions of Cats by Wanda Gág
I Saw a Ship A-Sailing by Beni Montresor
Little Blue and Little Yellow by Leo Lionni
Father Christmas by Raymond Briggs
The Philharmonic Gets Dressed by Karla Kuskin and Marc Simont
Babar and Zephir by Jean de Brunhoff
The Maid and the Mouse and the Odd-Shaped House by Paul O. Zelinsky
Toddlecreek Post Office by Uri Shulevitz (possibly the saddest picture book ever published)
Phew… I’ll stop here, but there so many more great books out there that I should mention.
Oops! How could I leave this one out?! Wolf Erlbruch’s Death, Duck, and the Tulip. Such a great book."
What are some upcoming books you're most looking forward to reading? "Because I don’t live in the U.S. anymore, sometimes I miss out on books that I used to find in my favorite NY area bookstores (Books of Wonder, The Curious Reader, etc.). For example, I still have to see Lane Smith’s A Gift for Nana, Ali Bahrampour’s Monsters in the Fog, Sophie Blackall’s Farmhouse, and a bunch more. I will surely get my copies very soon.
I also want to find out if there is anything new by Maria Gulemetova, who did such a lovely job with Beyond the Fence. Other authors I am always happy when I find new books by are: Beatrice Alemagna, Alexis Deacon, Jon Agee… I know I left out many more. Oh, well."
Updated: Sep 28, 2022
A monster meanders down a beach, dragging a stick behind them and leaving a line in the sand. Meanwhile, a group of friends is at play―flying kites, building sandcastles, tossing a ball―until two of them become curious about the line that now seemingly divides them.
Max's Boat Pick:
THE LINE IN THE SAND
By Thao Lam
Publisher: Owlkids (September 13, 2022)
What inspired you to create The Line in the Sand? Is it something about the political climate or .... ?
TL: "My little one and I spend a lot of time at different parks throughout the city. Parks are a microcosm of our larger society; they're a great cross section of little people learning how to interact with each other. It was during one of these outings that we observed an altercation. At the end, Maddie wanted to know who was the good guy and who was the bad guy. Not knowing the root of the altercation, I tried to explain to her that sometimes things are not always black and white. There are often many interpretations or different perspectives to a problem (or solution)."
I find it intriguing how you jump back and forth between wordless books and ones with text. How do you decide which way to go? Why did you decide to go wordless with The Line in the Sand? "I let the story take the lead; sometimes it’s an image that starts the story or sometimes it’s a line of text like in the case of My Cat Looks Like My Dad. My natural tendency is to tell a story visually because I find writing a challenge.
I intentionally made The Line In The Sand a wordless picture book because misunderstandings are often due to a lack of communication. By not including text, readers are now left to their own interpretation of the situation; will they be right or wrong? Or do they just have a different perspective? Without clarification through text, readers can empathize with the two main characters and understand how two friends could end up in such an altercation.
Wordless pictures books are great conversation starters because they force the readers to talk about what they are seeing, and their interpretation of the story. Each reader will bring something personal depending on their age, background, and experiences. My little one will see two friends fighting while I will see our current political climate."
Do you still read to your daughter? If so, what are you reading now? What did you love reading to Maddie at age 3? At age 5? "Oh yes! It’s my favorite time of day. Maddie would pick out one or two books (or twenty) and we read and we talk. She loved anything by Oliver Jeffers; his books have such great humor and are so fun to read out loud. There was a time when I was reading The Day The Crayons Quit by Drew Daywalt and illustrated by Oliver Jeffers EVERY NIGHT FOR MONTHS (until the book just disappeared one day…).
My parents were always busy working so I never got the experience of snuggling up with a parent and a book. Now that Maddie knows how to read, I now get the joy of being read to and I love it!"
Updated: Sep 28, 2022
Even though it’s only four simple, familiar letters long, nobody can ever pronounce Thao’s name. She’s been called Theo, Tail, even Towel! But the teasing names―Tofu, Tiny, China Girl―are worse. Maybe it’s time to be someone else?
Max's Boat Pick:
THAO: A PICTURE BOOK
By Thao Lam
Publisher: Owlkids (April 15, 2021)
What inspired you to write Thao: A Picture Book?
TL: "Years ago I stumbled across an NPR article about the effects of mispronouncing a student’s name. It mentioned how the alienation of having an unfamiliar name could cause a child's grades and social emotional well-being to suffer. The article validated my experiences and I wanted to learn more so I went down this rabbit hole reading everything I could on the social impact, as well as the politics and history, of names.
My name was butchered my entire life. I would dread roll calls or having to introduce myself at school. To
this day, I still cringe inside when I know my name is going to be called; there is always this awkward pause that tells me I am next.
Though they may seem harmless—mere slips of the tongue—these racial microaggressions add up and can leave a lasting impact on a child, skewing how they view themselves, their culture and
the world around them.
I was never taught to appreciate my name; it was something I endured. It was an embarrassing burden, and a constant reminder that I was different, foreign, and weird. But names are special and part of your identity. They have meaning, cultural significance, and family history attached to them."
Writing anything, even a work of fiction, can seem so personal, and here you are not just writing something deeply personal, but also putting your childhood photos in it! How did that come about? "I had all these photographs my mother gave me while I was researching my family’s history for The Paper Boat. There were a few of our lives in Canada so when I was trying to figure out the 'look' for THAO: A Picture Book, it clicked. This story was about me, so it made sense to use photos of me to help put a real face to a name. They serve as a reminder that behind each name is a person who should not be carelessly brushed off. Names hold ancestral and historical significance for many immigrants, like myself. There is a story and a person behind each name; we should make an effort and take the time to get to know both."
Who are some illustrators you admire? "I used to be an art buyer for educational publishing; my job was to commission illustrations for your language, math, history, science and social studies books. I spent a lot of time looking at illustrations and had the privilege of working with some amazing illustrators so it’s a long list of favorites:
Isabelle Arsenault
Oliver Jeffers
Mo Willems
Dan Santat
David Roberts
Elise Gravel
Thomke Meyer
Suzy Lee
Jungho Lee
Vera Brosgol
Joe Todd-Stanton
Patrycja Podkoscielny
Raquel Catalina
Christian Robinson
Eric Carle
Ezra Jack Keats
Qin Leng
Chris Sasaki
Jorge Gonzalez
Teagan White
Jane Massey
Jean Jullien
Chris Turnham
Jon Klassen
Shaun Tan
Simona Ciraolo
And so many more…"